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civil offices, your committee cannot any such person a certain period but entertain an opinion that, con of service in the higher class. sistently, as they trust, with this With reference to these prinimportant object, it will be prac. ciples of modification, your comticable to make the new means of mittee submit, that the number reward which it is proposed to of pensions in each of the four grant to the Crown less extensive, classes should be limited as foland, at the same time, to place lows : the power of conferring those re 1st Class-First Lord of the wards under limitations more re Treasury, First Lord of the Admistrictive than had been provided ralty, Three Secretaries of State, by the regulations of that bill. Chancellor of the Exchequereix

Retaining the list and classi- pensions of 3,0001. fication of offices according to that 2d Class-Chief Secretary for bill, your committee are of opi- Ireland, Secretary at War-three nion, that it would be expedient pensions of 20001. either to limit the total sum, which N. B. The Chancellor of the Exshould in no case be exceeded, or chequer for Ireland was included to proceed, in another mode, to- in this class in the Bill of 1813. wards attaining the same object : 3d Class-Two Secretaries of

1st. By limiting the number of the Treasury, Principal Secretary pensions which could be granted, of the Admiralty-6 pensions of and in operation at any one time 1,5001. in each class. 2dly. By providing 4th class-Under Secretaries of that the power of granting such State, Clerk of the Ordnancepensions should be called pro- 6 pensions of 1,0001. gressively into operation at stated That the Crown should have the intervals, affording a reasonable power of granting one pension in probability, that at least an equal ench of these classes, except the saving will have been effected by . second, at the end of two years the falling in of the salaries or from the adoption of this system emoluments of some of the offices by the legislature, and so in sucto be regulated or abolished, in- cession at intervals of two years, stead of commencing at once upon until the expiration of twelve years, the vacancy of the first of such when it shall be lawful to the offices as might exceed 2,0001. a Crown to grant the whole number year, or at any one given period. of pensions proposed in each class. 2dly. That the provision of the With respect to the second class, bill which would have made it it is proposed that the power should lawful for his Majesty, when any not commence till the expiration person should have served in more of four years, so as to come into than one of the four classes, to complete operation at the same grant such pension as is annexed period of twelve years, as in the to the highest class in which he three cther classes. may have been employed (without Your committee conceive that any reference to the duration of his the offices of the President of the service in that class) should be so Board of Control, and Secretary far amended as to require from to that Board, come within the

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description of effective, civil, and upon the grantee being appointed political offices, so far as to entitle to any civil office or employment them to be considered in any ge- under the Crown of equal or neral system intended to be laid greater amount. down with regard to such offices ; It has occurred to your combut they leave it to the wisdom of mittee, that circumstances might the House to determine whether, possibly arise, thoughof occasional as their salaries are entirely drawn and rare occurrence, in which it from another quarter, and not might be highly expedient for the from public revenue, these offices Crown to possess the power of ought to be ineluded in the pro- granting one pension in the first visions of any bill which may be class, without reference to any framed upon the recommendations specific period of service in the contained in this report, or to person to whom it might be grantform the subject of some other ed; and although there might be legislative measure.

no actual vacancy in the class. The regulations of the bill, with They therefore submit to the House, respect to length of service in whether it might not be expedient each of the four classes, your com to grant such a power, subject to mittee are of opinion might be any regulations in the mode of amended in the following man- exercising it which may be thought ner:

necessary, and subject also to a 1st Class-not less than two provision that any such grant years' service in one or more of should be held to be supernumerary; the offices of that class : 2d and so that, upon any subsequent va3d classes-either five years' ser cancy arising in the first class, it vice in one of the offices of that should not be filled up, except in class, or three years in that class, favour of the person holding such and not less than five years in extraordinary pension; who from some of the offices of the other that time would be considered classes, so as to make, in that case, as forming one of the limited list at least eight years' service ; but of six. in the whole 4th class, at least Although it may be objected to ten years' service.

the limited number proposed by The only further alteration your committee for each class, which it has occurred to your that circumstances may arise in committee to recommend in li- which, from the whole number of mitation of the regulations of the pensions in any of the classes bill, is, that the pensions of each having been previously granted, class should, in all cases, be li- the crown might for a time be demited to the smaller sum specified baried from remunerating a perin the bill, viz.. 3,0001. for the son, who, by long and meritorious first class ; 2,000l. for the second; services, might be entitled to such 1,500l. for the third; and 1,0001. a reward; such an inconvenience, for the fourth ; without any pro- they apprehend, could only exist gressive increase depending upon for a short time; and on the other length of service; and that one hand, your committec are of opinihalf of such pension should abate on that, without some such limita

SECOND RF.PORT FROM THE SELECT

COMMITTEE ON FINANCE.

tion, the saving, which they con- themselves in the question. In template as one of the induce taking into consideration the peace ments for substituting this mode establishments of the country, it of recompensing public service, for must be remembered, that if on that which is now at the disposal the one hand they are proposed to of the crown, might be ultimately be kept in a state of complete predisappointed.

paration, with a view of affording March 28, 1817.

entire security to the nation both at home and abroad, the continued expense must bear so heavily upon the resources of the country,

as to preclude all hope of relief (Ordered by the House of Commons the load of debt incurred during a

from the burdens of taxation, and to be printed, March 29, 1817.]

long series of protracted hostiliThe Select Committee, appointed ties : on the other hand, if they to inquire into, and state, the should be reduced too low, the income and expenditure of the temporary gain in point of ecoUnited Kingdom for the year ended nomy might be more than counthe 5th of January, 1817, and also terbalanced by the hazardous to consider and state the probable situation in which this kingdom, income and expenditure (so far as together with its numerous and the same can now be estimated)

distant dependencies, might evenfor the years ending the 5th of tually be placed upon the breaking January 1818, and the 5th of Ja.

out of an unforeseen or sudden nuary, 1819, respectively, and to

war ; for which such a state of report the same, together with deficient military preparation their observations thereupon from might possibly offerno

small time to time, and also to consider

temptation. what further measures may be It is rather, therefore, for the adopted for the relief of the coun

executive government, acting on try from any part of the said ex

their responsibility, to propose, penditure, without detriment to and for the wisdom of the House the public interest, have proceeded to judge of, a matter of this high to investigate the principal estab- importance, than for your comlishments of the country, begin mittee to offer an opinion ; but ning with the army.

they observe, in the mean time, In this departinent the first with satisfaction, that upon a comobject that presents itself is the parison between the estimates of numerical amount of force.

the two last years, and those for Your committee are deeply sen the present year, much will appear sible of the extreme difficulty of to have been effected in the way ascertaining the precise point at of reduction, both as to numbers which our military establishments and as to expense; and they enshould be fixed, on account of po- tertain a confident hope, that such litical considerations, and others further reductions will continue to of a still more delicate nature, be made, as may be found conwhich must necessarily involve sistent with all the true interests

of

of the country, neither erring on The second gives the comparison the side of absolute confidence on of the total numbers in the years the long duration of peace, nor

1814 and 1817. giving way

to unwarrantable The third sliews the comparaapprehensions of danger and ag tive expense in the years 1816 and gression.

1817, and also the expense inAnd your committee further curred in the year 1815. The resubmit, that as the duration and duction of that great establishmagnitude of the astonishing exer ment which the war had occations made by this kingdom during sioned was begun in 1816, and the late war must mainly be attri. has been carried considerably furbuted to the pecuniary resources ther in the present estimates ; the then brought into operation, which difference amounts to no less a could never be more justly deemed sum than 1,738,4961. upon the the sinews of war than during the net balance; although several whole course of that eventful con charges, such as half pay, the test; so these can be renovated Compassionate List, and other and strengthened in no other way allowances of a simirar kind, are than by retrenchment and eco necessarily augmented by the ternomy during the opportunity af inination of the war, and a dimiforded by a return of peace.

nution of the numbers maintained At the same time, this most im on active service. portant consideration must always Besides the mere numerical rebe kept in view--that if our mili- duction, a principle of economy tary establishments should once has heen applied to the cavalry, by be suffered to fall below the stand a diminution of the number of ard of efficiency and discipline, to horses kept for the service of each which they are now raised by regiment, to the extent of 20 in great exertions founded on expe- each troop; in the last year there rienre, it will not be possible to were only ten men dismounted in restore them again to the same each troop, and that number is height without great waste of now doubled, by which a consitime, however urgently their best derable charge is saved, without services may be required.

too far breaking down the effici. ency of the regiments.

The particulars of the charge of P. 1, in the Estimates. a regiment of infantry in the years The first of the returns com 1792 and 1817 are annexed, for pares the numerical force main- the purpose of showing the getained in the year 1816, with that neral establishment of each sepaintended to be maintained in 1817; rate regiment which prevailed at both as to the difference of actual that period, compared with the establishments in those two years, present; and also for giving at and of the force on account of one view the relative charge of which a charge is incurred by the maintaining the same numerical public, distinguished from the force, in the two periods, which force in France and in India, bears the proportion of very nearly Vol. LIX.

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LAND FORCES.

two to three; being 945,0941. in ings were first fixed in the reign 1792, and 331,9741. in 1817, for of Queen Annė, and they remain 8,000 infantry.

the same at the present day; but, A comparison is also given of in consequence of the great inthe expense of regimenting a force crease in the price of leather of 8,000 infantry into battalions during the early part of the late of 400 rank and file each (the es- war, an allowance of 15 per cent. tablishment existing in 17'92), and upon the off-reckonings was grantinto battalions of soo rank and ed to colonels of cavalry regiments file each ; by which judicious ar- from July, 1799, after deducting rangement an annual saving of therefrom ll. 16s. per annum for 74,3961, as well'as a niore efficient every man wanting to complete staff, by the present mode of the full establishment. This alforining this amount of force on łowance has been issued every two the same number, is 'secured to years, upon a memorial from the the public.

respective colonels, showing that The pay of the army, with re- no diminution had taken place in gard to rank and file, has been the price of appointments, with exactly doubled since 1792, with the exception of two years, from additional allowances after seven the 25th day of December, 1903, years of service; but the augmen- to the 24th day of December, tation of pay and daily allowance 1805, for which the colonels did has been made ırpon a much lower not claim it. scale to the officers'; and the colo The difference which appears in nel stands upon the saine footing the present and in forier estias in 1792.

mates, between the expenses of In the cavalry no addition has clothing some regiments of equal been made to the pay of any rank numbers, is occasioned by some of superior to that of lieutenant, them being mpon the British and which has been increased from some upon the Irish establish4s. 5d. to 9s per day; the drugoon ment, which, for a cavalry regisoldiers, whose daily pay was 8d. ment of 464 rank and file, amounts, in 1792, now receive 1s. 3d. with upon the British establishment, to the addition of 1. after ten 2,8451., and upon the Irish (in years, and 2d. afier seventecn years Irish currency) to 3,5001., or of service.

3,2301. British. "This is stated to The rate of agency i'einains pre- be a very old regulation, in which cisely the same as 'in 1792 for no alteration has been made of corps of infantry; for corps of late years. Cavalry, the rate of agency appears

[Here follows the comparison alto have been reduced one-fourth, luded to; 'by which it appears that from the 25th of July, 1809. It in 1816 the total number, in the is remarkable, that no augmenta- abstract, of the estimates, omitting tion has ever been made to the the corps ordered for reduction in allowances for clothing and ap- 1816, and the corps for service in pointments of cither cavalry or India and in France, but includintuntry. The rates of off-reckon- ing 21,401 officers and men in

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