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annum in consequence. This act was This raised his income to 29,5001.; the passed about the year 1778. On the law, at the same time, preventing the posdeath of the duke of Kent, the right of sibility of any further increase by right of survivorship raised the sum of 10,0001. survivorship, as that 3,0001. made the sum enjoyed by the younger princes, to of 15,0001., which was the limit the law had 12,0001. It was under that law, then, set to the operation of that right. I have that his royal highness the duke of Cla- thus explained to the committee the rence receives 12,0001. a-year. In 1806 amount of his royal highness's income ; another act was passed, giving 6,0001. per but nothing, as I before stated, is allowed annum additional to the younger princes for her royal highness the duchess. I of the royal family. This raised the therefore propose to submit to the conamount of his royal highness's income to sideration of the committee, the propriety 18,0001. By another act, the date of which of placing their royal highnesses on the I do not now exactly call to mind, a fur- same footing, with respect to income, ther allowance of 2,5001. was made; but with that enjoyed by the duke of York. this ceased at the death of his late majes. There are certain differences between ty. It was renewed in 1820. This made them, which I beg leave to state. The his royal highness's income 20,5001. When late duke of York, in addition to his inhis royal highness married, a proposition come of 33,0001., had an allowance, as I was made to increase his allowance on before mentioned, of 4,0001., on account that account. An increase of 10,0001. of her royal highness the duchess. I was, therefore, proposed to the House; shall, therefore, propose to add 3,0001. to but it was thought too much, and upon the income of 29,5001. already enjoyed by discussion was reduced to 6,0001. Under his royal highness the duke of Clarence, all the circumstances, his royal highness which will raise his allowance to 32,5001. felt that it would be more becoming in I shall further propose, that an annuity of him to decline to accept the reduced 6,0001. per annum, be granted to the grant. He, accordingly, did decline it; duchess during her husband's life-time. and that grant, therefore, was never car- (A member called out, that that was, alried into effect. In 1822, I think it was, together, more than the duke of York had that the proposition was renewed of allow. had.] That is true; but, in looking at ing him 6,0001. additional; as had already this matter, it is necessary to take into been done in the cases of the duke of consideration the difference between the Cambridge and another of his royal bro- professional emolunients of the one and thers. The House, I believe, almost of the other. It has always been conunanimously consented; and this raised sidered, that the duke of Clarence, in the his royal highness's income to 26,5001. profession he embraced, was placed in a the sum I have already alluded to. It less favourable position than his royal

| may be well for me here to state, that, in brothers who entered the army. It was 1820, until the civil list could be settled, on this consideration, that the 2,5001. I which did not take place until some alluded to before was granted him, over months after the demise of his late ma- and above the allowance made to the jesty, the allowances to the different other junior princes. Upon these grounds princes of the royal family were charged it is, that I propose the grant. When upon the hereditary revenues, which oc- matters of this kind are considered in this casioned some confusion in the accounts of House, it is not considered necessary, and that year; but in June an act was passed very properly, nor would it be consistent to regulate their payment. It was, at the with dignity, to enter into any account of same time, re-enacted, that the portion of the personal merits of the royal individual, the duke of Clarence, and the other younger whose claims we may have under considerprinces' income, which had ceased by the ation. Grants of this kind are not made death of his late majesty, should be con- to the individual as an individual, but on tinued. That act secured the same benefit account of his public station, and nearof survivorship which had before existed. ness to the throne. It is that which The effect of that was, by the death of makes it the duty of this country to be the late duke of York, to put his royal liberal in its allowances to the members of highness the duke of Clarence, into the the royal family. I therefore decline to possession of 3,0001. per annum beyond rest the question upon claims of a perwhat he enjoyed previous to that event. sonal pature ; but I think I may say, with out departing from respect or delicacy, House; and though he went further, and that her royal highness the duchess of was ready to admit that the private conClarence, a stranger among us, is as emi- duct of the duke of Clarence, as it apnent for the graces of her mind as for her peared before the country, had been virtues, and that, although not a British- marked by a degree of economy and doborn lady, is yet one of that long list, who mestic management, which, to the full as have done honour to this country, by the much as any of his royal brothers, entigraces and amiability of their disposition tled him to the attention of parliament; and propriety of their conduct. I hope, yet he did not think that any case for the Sir, I shall not be considered to have grant had been made out, and he was transgressed, in having said so much. I sorry, for the sake of his royal highness do not consider it necessary to trouble the personally, and for the sake of the royal House at greater length; but one observ- family altogether, that, under the circumation, and I have done. It was not stances of the country, it had been deknown to his royal highness that this pro- manded. With distress and ruin running position was to be made, until the mes- through every part of the kingdom, and sage had received his majesty's signature, with a revenue deficient four millions in and a copy of it was sent him. If the the course of the last year, some good House should think proper to assent to ground indeed ought to be shown for askthe proposition, no doubt his royal high- ing for any addition to the burthens of ness will receive its decision with due the people. The right hon. gentleman gratitude; but this I am bound to say, had said, that it was the constant custom that the part of it which his royal highness of parliament to give to the heir prehas regarded with the greatest pleasure, is sumptive to the throne a grant beyond that which goes to place the duchess, that allowed to the other members of his whose virtues and excellence he must ne- family; but he had not adduced a single cessarily have the best means of appreciat proof in support of that statement. The ing, in an independent and honourable right hon. gentleman had quoted the insituation. I move, Sir,

come of the duke of York when he was 1. “That His Majesty be enabled to not the heir presumptive; but he had not grant a yearly_sum of money out of the shown that a single shilling was added to Consolidated Fund of the United King- it when he fell into that situation ; theredom of Great Britain and Ireland, not ex- fore there was no precedent for the grant ceeding in the whole the sum of 3,0001., made out at all. But, even if a preceto his royal highness the duke of Clarence, dent could have been found, he thought for the further support and maintenance it would have been more to the honour of of his royal highness.

the royal family, if, in a moment of dis2. “ 'That His Majesty be enabled to tress like the present, the demand had grant a yearly sum of money out of the not been brought forward. He regretted Consolidated "Fund of the United King- that the message had been sent down, dom of Great Britain and Ireland, not and that his view of what was his duty exceeding in the whole the sum of 6,0001. to the country compelled him to make to her royal highness the duchess of these observations; but, feeling as he did, Clarence, for the further support and he had no choice but to oppose the maintenance of her royal highness.” motion.

Lord Althorp regretted deeply that his Mr. Hume reminded the House, in the majesty should have been advised to send first place, that the duchess of Clarence down a message like the present to the had already 6,0001. a year secured to her House. If it could be shown, that in by parliament. consequence of his change of situation, The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, his royal highness the duke of Clarence that that grant was only applicable in would really be put to additional ex- case of the duke's death. penses, no doubt it was fit that he should Mr. Hume.-Well, the money, at all be enabled to meet them ; but, although events, had been granted; but he would he fully concurred with the chancellor of not go into that. Could the House, he the Exchequer, that the personal virtues would only ask, satisfy itself that it was of the illustrious individuals concerned in doing its duty in the present state of the questions of this description ought to form country, in voting a grant of 9,0001. a no feature in the deliberation of the year to the duke of Clarence, in addition


to the 3,0001. which his royal highness ble disposition of the duke of Clarence. had already got by the death of the late He knew that to various public instituduke of York? The income which the tions, his royal highness had devoted duke of Clarence enjoyed from his ap- much of his particular attention. He pointments would make his revenue not believed, too, that his present majesty less than 40,0001. a year. Could it tend had the character of being as humane as to the honour of the Crown, or make the the other branches of his family; and if people satisfied with the system of mo- that was the fact, he was utterly unable narchy, if that system, under such cir- to believe that ministers had truly laid cumstances, was to be supported at such before him the state of the country. He an expense? If the chancellor of the could not believe that his majesty, with Exchequer looked at the paper which he the knowledge of the real state of so many ought to have in his possession, he would thousands of his subjects, would have find, that the civil list of this country sent down such a message as the present amounted to 1,557,0001., great part of to the House. If the truth could be which was purely applicable to the main known, he believed it would be found that tenance of royalty. The civil list of Scot- the message was not that of the king, but land furnished 200,0001. more; a large of the ministers who sat opposite, and proportion of which was available for the who had advised his majesty to take this same purpose. The pensions on the last course, that they might worship the rising year list, paid to members of the royal sun, and give an example of their prompt family including the allowance to the obedience to the power that was likely to prince of Saxe Coburg) amounted to no be; as had been done in the case of the less than 234,5001. Now, in addition to allowance to the prince of Saxe Coburg this, we were called upon to vote 9,0001. on his marriage--a case of the most proa year more to the duke of Clarence, fligate inattention, on the part of both making the amount 243,5001. Let the sides of the House, to the interests of the House listen to the cries for economy and country. At this moment, too, an applireduction, which were proceeding from cation of this kind came with peculiar ill all parts of the country. No other assem- grace, for only a few days had elapsed bly in the world would turn a deaf ear, as since, in pursuance of the king's letter, the House was doing, to the prayers of the aid of the church was called in, to the people. A member of the govern- institute collections for the relief of the ment, the hon. Secretary for the Colonies, distressed manufacturers; a step which had alluded, only a night past, to a peti- he lamented, because nothing was more tion from the town of Blackburn. That derogatory to the kingly dignity, than petition he had presented; and the title that his majesty should have been advised of it was, “ The Petition of the Starving to ask alms of his people, to save their Weavers of Lancashire." Thousands of fellow-creatures from starvation. All who workmen were out of employ in that felt as he did for the honour and dignity town: men, women, and children had of the Crown, must have lamented that died, or were perishing, of actual hunger. the state professed itself unable, by Their prayer to the House was, that some- any other means, to procure relief for the thing might be done which would provide famishing poor. It was most humiliating them with sufficient food of the vilest and painful to have lately seen the beadles kind, only to support nature: and the and parish officers passing from door to answer was, a motion for an additional door, and for what?“-to beg alms, by grant of 9,0001, a year to the duke of virtue of the king's letter, for the starving Clarence! Calls of the same description and distressed manufacturers. Was it, with those from Blackburn were coming then, he would ask, consistent with that from Manchester, from Glasgow, from measure which avowed the inability of almost all our manufacturing towns. There the government to afford any public pitwas a deficiency in the last year's revenue tance in the cause of suffering humanity, of more than 5,000,0001.; and yet the to come forward with such an application House was told, that we had an effective as this? What amount of subscription sinking fund of 5,000,0001., and was call- had the king's letter produced? What ed upon to vote more money away! No pittance was furnished by that only means man in the House was better aware which the government had advised his than himself of the humane and charita-I majesty to resort to, for the relief of starving

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Englishmen? Had it produced as much ministers ought rather to have been adas was now called for, merely to give one vised to come down to that House, to reyear's addition to an already princely in- commend its reduction, than to call for come? Had it produced half the 9,0001. any addition to the civil list, in the present a year now demanded ? Under such cir- circumstances of the country. cumstances as these, he would not hesi- amazed at the present proposition. He tate to say, that the ministers who had wondered how it was possible, with such advised his majesty to recommend these misery apparent all over the country, that begging applications from door to door, any man, bearing the human character, ought not to have ventured, within a very could venture gravely to ask for this grant; few weeks, to have acted so much in con- at any rate, he must express his astonishtradiction to such a recommendation. If, ment that his majesty's ministers, bearing, in the present situation of the country, as he knew they deservedly did, characters the parliament could find any money to for benevolence and humanity, at least spare, let them give it to those who had such of them as were in that Houseprior claim on their sympathy: let them (laughter and cries of "hear."] It was give it for bread to their fellow country- certainly rather invidious for him to make men, who were dying for want of it; and exceptions; but when he alluded to the let them refrain from becoming parties to ministers in that House, he could speak rendering the royal family odious in the more of his own personal knowledge of eyes of the people over whom they were their characters, and could therefore bear destined to reign. This was, forsooth, a direct testimony in their behalf. Speakpretty time to call for an addition of ing from this experience, he should hardly 9,0001. a-year to an income which was have thought it possible they could have already 29,0001. If they looked even to persuaded themselves to make such a prothe principle of these royal grants, they position. Made as it was, however, he would in vain seek for a precedent for entreated the House to pause before it such a motion as this. The million sanctioned the claim, and to allow itself a-year composing the expenditure of what time to hear the expression of the public was called the civil list was given to sus- voice upon


Let the voice of the peotain the state and paraphernalia of royalty. ple guide them this once upon the quesWhat state was the duke of Clarence par- tion, and they would, in the end, find ticularly called upon to assume in his pre- that they had taken the right course in sent situation? If there were any man not yielding implicitly to the wish of in England of high rank who bore more ministers. He would particularly address than another a character for attention to himself to the right hon. Secretary for the economy in his expenditure, and to a Home Department, and ask him how he disregard of expensive and showy forms, could reflect with satisfaction upon this that person was the duke of Clarence. act, when he had before him various supAs a plain and good Englishman, imbued plications from Glasgow alone, where

а with proper feelings, his royal highness above ten thousand artisans were borne stood above all these considerations. down by want to the lowest pitch of Indeed, the chancellor of the Exchequer human misery? How was it possible he had disclaimed putting the merits of could countenance the present application the motion upon personal grounds, and for 9,0001. a year additional to an income strictly confined it to the claim of of 29,0001. a year, with the cries of tens rank. Then taking him at his word, of thousands of distressed operatives in he would ask, had not the duke of his ear, who, though dying for want, were Clarence at present enough for the rank nevertheless not betrayed into any disobediwhich he wished to assume? Was he, ence of the laws. He begged pardon for in fact, in the habit of spending what dwelling upon this subject, but he had no he already had in the maintenance of hesitation in asserting that if the House rank? If he was not, then more was su- yielded to this claim, they would be acting perfluous. It was uncalled for, and there without a due attention to the interests fore unnecessary. Referring for a moment which they were expressly bound to guard. to the civil list, he thought that of late He hoped they would not consent to years, a large portion of it had been com- please a few, at the expense of the many. pletely wasted: the expenditure had not Better, far better would it be, to see the been properly attended to, so that the latter comfortable, than to grant this additional sum of money ; especially when lamented death of the duke of York; and it was distinctly avowed that the royal it was merely intended, that this saving personage had not called for it. He ab- should be less by the grant of this parsolved the duke of Clarence from any ticular sum to the duke of Clarence. The participation in the odium of this appli- people, he was quite sure, deeply re

, cation. It was the act of the king's mi- gretted that the late calamity had ocnisters, and that House ought not to yield curred, and would have much preferred to a passive obedience to such personages. have continued the payment of the duke It was a question involving the honour of of York's income, if his valuable life could the House, the honour of ministers, and have been preserved. To the truth of the honour of the royal family. There what had been said of the duchess of ought to be time allowed for the con- Clarence, he could speak more particularly sideration of such a subject; and with from the circumstance of his residing at that view he should move an adjournment no great distance from the duke's resiof the debate, not for the purpose of com- dence. He could speak positively of the mitting members to oppose the grant, but universal opinion which prevailed there, merely to enable them to decide upon it of her royal highness's benevolence, and after more mature deliberation. He likewise of the habits of economy to which should, therefore, conclude by moving, the duke adhered, as far as was consistent that the chairman report progress, and with his high situation. He sincerely ask leave to sit again.

hoped that the opposition to this motion Colonel Wood expressed his regret, that would be withdrawn, and that it would be the noble lord and the hon. gentleman carried unanimously.

. should have opposed this motion, which Mr. Curwen regretted that this question he had hoped would have passed unani- had been brought forward, for nothing mously. He could not by any means see could be more painful to him than to give what injustice was done the country, by the vote which his sense of duty called placing the heir presumptive upon the upon him to give. If the country was able footing of his predecessor. Nothing was,

Nothing was, to afford this grant, he had no individual he knew, more unpleasant than to provoke objection to it; but when he knew that, individual comparisons; yet it was almost from one end of it to the other, the cry of unavoidable upon such an occasion as distress was general, he could not, without this. He would then say, that either the a violation of duty, hesitate to oppose it, income granted to the late duke of York, and he was ready to do so at once, for he thirty years ago, was most extravagant, required no postponement to make up

his or there could not be any impropriety in mind upon it. The circumstances of the the present claim? Why was 39,0001, country imperatively called for economy, a year not deemed an improvident income and the refusal of this grant would, he for the duke of York, if the proposed hoped, be the prelude of their performing augmentation for the duke of Clarence similar acts of justice to their constituwere thought unreasonable. How were ents. they to escape from this dilemma? As to Mr. Monck concurred with his hon. the argument about the condition of the friend, in his expression of pain at being country, it was not a liberal way of treat- obliged to oppose this motion. He had ing a question of this sort to put the dis- not heard a single argument from the tresses of the country in contrast with the chancellor of the Exchequer in favour of allowance necessary for the due mainte- it. It was in vain to refer to the addition nance of the royal family. He sincerely made to the incomes of the royal family believed that the people would never wish in 1806; for that addition was expressly to see their royal family straitgned in cir- called for, on account of the rise in the cumstances; but, on the contrary, would price of all the necessaries of life. The always prefer to see the Throne surrounded act of 1806, therefore, furnished no prewith dignity and just splendor. The cedent for such a claim as this. Were hon. gentleman was wrong in arguing the royal family alone to have a reserved this proposition, as if it were a call upon interest in the fluctuations of the price of the country for an ad:litional giant of provisions, and were the people never to 9,0001. a year from the public burthens. , have a similar chance in their favour? It was no such thing: the case stood thus. Willing as he was to support the due A large saving had just fallen in by the splendor and dignity of the royal family,

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