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tee. But there was an appeal to the of them, they said, were without any emHouse; and they had seen instances in ployment at all. That he knew to be the which, when the committee up stairs was case; and that of course they were in mistaken, the case had been set to rights utter want, and suffering absolute starvaby the House. That he conceived to be a tion. They said that most of them had far better tribunal thạn the new one de- worked for fourteen or sixteen hours a vised by bis hon. friend. He thought this day, and at the end of the week earned deposit of 6001, should be given up alto only six, five, and some as little as four gether, and that the parties who alleged shillings and sixpence. That he also that they had suffered wrong should ap- knew to be the fact. It was further peal at once to the House. He would re- stated by the petitioners, that in consecommend his hoy. friend to suffer the quence of their necessities they were other resolutions to be carried into effect; destitute of decent clothing, and were and, when he saw how they worked, he thereby prevented from attending divine might, if he thought proper, introduce a service. Their representations on this bill
, enacting that appellants should enter head, so far from being exaggerated, to into recognizances, which would be a much his knowledge, fell short of the truth. The better mode, than that of calling on indi- families of the weavers were crying to viduals to put down the sum of 5001. them for bread, which they were unable
Mr. G. Lamb said, his doubts as to the to give : how then was it possible that legality of calling on appellants to put they could afford clothes ? He knew down 5001., out of wbich costs were to be many worthy and honest men among the awarded, were removed by the satisfactory weavers, who lamented this circumstance, precedent which had been adduced by his with reference not only to the present hon. friend. He should vote for the reso- calamity, but to the evils which it would lution ; because the very existence of an entail upon their offspring, whom they appeal committee argued the necessity of could not send either to schools for eduits having the power to award costs. cation, or to places of divine worship, and
Mr. Littleton was of opinion, that a who would therefore lose every opportudeposit ought to be required generally, nity of becoming imbued with those right leaving it to the House to depart from principles which alone could safely guide that practice in any particular case, if them in their progress through life. He they thought fit. If, however, the House declared that he had not overstated the would consent to adjourn the debate to a case of by far the larger portion of the future day, he would in the interim re- petitioners. The prayer of the petition consider his resolution, and endeavour to would make good his assertion ; for what make such alterations as would obviate did it ask? It did not ask for charity; the objections which were made to it in but, feeling their utter helplessness and its present shape.
hopelessness, the petitioners asked for The debate was accordingly adjourned that which was the punishment of crimeto the 15th of February.
exile : they asked for the means of emi
grating from their native land. That of HOUSE OF COMMONS.
itself spoke volumes as to the actual sufTuesday, December 5.
ferings which they were enduring. Indeed,
they were too evident to admit of any DISTRESS OF WEAVERS IN SCOTLAND contradiction of the statement. His ob--EMIGRATION.) Lord A. Hamilton ject was to ask the House to permit the presented a petition from the Weavers of petition to lie on the table, in order that Glasgow, and of the county of Lanark, the case of the petitioners might be before representing their extreme distress, and every one; and, having done that, he had praying for relief. The noble lord ob- done all that he could do. His hope was, served, that it was exceedingly painful to that some opinion would be now expressed him to read the description of the state of upon the subject by his majesty's minisdestitution, hopelessness, and helplessness ters, as the case was growing worse and under which the weavers of the county worse every day for the sufferers. The which he had the honour to represent subject was of the most general interest were suffering; knowing, as he did, how to the country, but more especially was it accurately that description conformed to of importance to that portion of the comthe melancholy facts of the case. Many Imunity in whose behalf he presented the petition. He must now allude to the that such a consent would not be misconlarge number of Irish, who emigrated strued into any pledge to grant the prayer every year to the western parts of Scot- of the petition. land. It might fairly be said, that it was Mr. Secretary Peel said, that the noble by the weight of these Irish emigrations, lord, in bringing forward the petition, had that the unfortunate Scotch were obliged expressed himself in a manner which reto resort to England for employment. He Alected the highest honour upon his feelbegged the House not for a moment to ings, and which was most creditable to suppose that it was his wish to question him as the representative of the district in the right of the Irish to go wherever they which the distress existed, He could might think proper, but it was evident assure the noble lord, that he participated that in proportion as they turned out fully in his sympathy for the sufferings of large numbers of the Scotch from employ- the petitioners. There was no part of ment, in the same proportion must the the empire, in which distress had been Scotch resort elsewhere. The state of deeply and for any length of time exdestitution in which the lower orders in perienced, where the people had evinced Ireland had long been left, and in which a more laudable conduct than in the part they now continued, had arisen from the of Scotland from which this petition promisgovernment of that country. It was a ceeded. Their sufferings had been borne permanent evil, and deeply affected Scot- without leading them to deviate from the land, by causing such an influx of desti- most exemplary conduct, or to forfeit tute Irish into that country. Even their high character, although the sufemigration was not at all likely to be of ferers were in a very humble sphere of any permanent benefit to Scotland, unless life. It was not possible for more patience some means were devised of checking the and forbearance to be evinced, than had Irish from flowing into that country, and been manifested by these unfortunate filling up the void. He had lately seen people; and he gave this opinion, from an account of a meeting of the magistracy having had frequent opportunities of asof Cork, the result of which was a resolu- certaining their sufferings and of observing tion, that a portion of the Irish should be their conduct. He well knew how iminvited to go over to England, and that perfect were sources of private information the proprietors of steam boats should be in cases like the present; but, since the requested to give them a passage gratis. last session, a single week had not passed This measure had been adopted upon the without his having been in constant com- vague notion, that trade was reviving in munication with the committee now sitsome degree in the latter country. If ting in the country upon the subject. there were means of putting the Irish in a That committee had devoted its attention better situation than that in which they to the subjeet, in the most exemplary pow were, and for a long time had been, manner. It had used its most zealous perhaps these unfortunate Seotch would exertions to mitigate the sufferings in that not be under the necessity of making any part of Scotland. The noble lord's prosuch demand as that stated in the peti- posal was, to present a petition, praying tion. The Glasgow and Strathaven for a grant of public money; and he had weavers had associated themselves, under very properly observed, that the consent the notion that they would be permitted of the Crown was necessary to the recepto go out in a society. The bonds of tion of such a petition by the House. He affection and the ties of kindred would not hoped that the House would not be disthen be severed, and the pain of separa- posed to enforce its regulation strictly in tion from friends, from country, and from this particular case. Although the petithe early associations of life, would be tioners did in effect pray for a grant of mitigated. But he feared that such an public money, they rather called the atarrangement, however, in some respects tention of the House to a public measure, desirable, could not be made. As the for which a grant of public money was petition asked for the pecuniary means of necessary. He was not quite sure wheemigration, he was aware that it could not ther this was not a public petition, or that be received, except by the consent of the the consent of the Crown was necessary: ministers of the Crown. He trusted the were such a consent essential, he should • petitioners would receive that consent; be very unwilling to refuse it. At the especially if it were clearly understood same time, he fek peculiarly anxious, that what he said might not be misconstrued, unable to support himself in a manufacso as to excite false notions, that granting tory from extreme age or a debilitated the consent of the Crown implied an constitution, and yet would be a most opinion in ministers, that any good could unfit object to select for emigration. It result to the petitioners from receiving would be necessary to select only those their petition. "He should not enter upon who were capable of availing themselves of the policy or effects of emigration, no those resources which would be alone open notice whatever had been given of an in- to them, after they had arrived in the tention to discuss the subject; and to go colony. He thought it right to make into it at present, would, he thought, these observations, to put the matter in a be premature. Emigration involved many proper point of view, and to prevent his subjects of the utmost importance, and consent to the reception of the petitions the interest was much enhanced by the being misinterpreted. He was anxious present state of the country. A com- not to encourage false hopes, at the same mittee had been appointed in the last ses- time that he would be sorry to damp legision to sit upon the subject, and their timate and reasonable expectations. It report, and the evidence they had put was not his intention to object to the petiforward, contained a mass of valuable in- tion's being received and referred to the formation. It concluded with a recom- committee of emigration when appointed ; mendation, that another committee should but he trusted the parties in question be appointed in the present session to would not, through the indulgence of falconsider some parts of the subject which lacious expectations, neglect to seize such had been imperfectly considered in the other favourable opportunities as presented previous inquiry, as well as to suggest themselves for their relief. some definite plan on which a system of Ordered to lie on the table. emigration should be adopted. He might observe, that no plan of emigration could Joint Stock COMPANIES-UNCERbe carried into effect before the ensuing TAINTY OF THE Law - PetITION OF month of May. The result of the evi- Thomas PARKIN.] Mr. D. W. Harvey dence before the former committee was, said, he rose to present a petition upon that autumn was the best period. He a subject of all others the most open to hoped that the Under Secretary of State confusion; he meant the uncertainty of for the Colonies, after the recess, would the law. The petition was very appropripropose the appointment of such a com- ate to the present occasion, as it had mittee. It was necessary to inform those some reference to the Joint-stock comindividuals from whom the petition came, panies, the subject of which was about that emigration would afford them no to be brought before the House. The material relief. It was necessary that petitioner stated, that he had been emprecautions should be taken in the colo-ployed as the secretary of one of the most nies to insure proper accommodation for solid and substantial Joint-stock compathe parties who arrived. To ship off ten nies; namely, the National Stone Way or twenty thousand men to Upper Canada, Company. Having performed his duty, incapable of adopting agricultural pursuits, the petitioner could not get his salary would inevitably lead to their extreme paid, and he therefore attached some misery. It would be necessary, previous property or funds of the company in the to their arrival, that lands should be hands of the City bankers. The banker located, roads made, and other measures having refused to pay this money, the adopted; or the situation of the emigrants case had been brought before the City would be most calamitous, and the suffer - court, and the recorder of London had ings of which they now complained greatly nonsuited the petitioner, on the ground aggravated. It was also necessary, when that a company existed, of which the ever any plan was to be carried into effect, money attached was a part of the prothat there should be a judicious and dis- perty, and ought to have been attached criminating selection of the individuals to as the property of the National Stone be sent out. Those very parties that Way Company. The petitioner, thereinight be the greatest objects of sympathy, fore, brought an action against the on account of their sufferings, might, from bankers, in the court of King's-bench, other causes, be of all others the most when he was defeated on just the reverse unfit for emigration. A may might be ) grounds ; namely, that the company was, in point of law, no company at all. He transmitted to Messrs. Fry and Chapman wished the petition to be referred to the a copy of the aforegoing Resolutions ; committee that might grow out of the that an account was opened in their books motion to be made that night, upon the under the title of the National Stone subject of Joint-stock Companies. Way Company;' that deposits to a con
The Petition was then read as fol- siderable amount were paid into their lows:
hands, under the authority of letters “To the Right Honourable the Com- signed by your Petitioner, announcing the
mons of the United Kingdom of allotment of Shares, and placed to the Great Britain and Ireland, in Par- credit of the National Stone Way Comliament assembled : the humble Pe-pany ; that two checks, hereinafter mentition of Thomas Parkin, of No. 14, tioned, were drawn upon, and paid by, Poultry, Secretary to the National the said Bankers, by virtue of the signaStone Way Company,
tures of three members of the Committee, “ Showeth — That your Petitioner is and those of your Petitioner, as Secretary Patentee for a method of laying down to the Company, and Mr. A. K. Hutchioblong granite stones, in streets and on son, as Solicitor ; that your Petitioner roads, for the wheels of waggons and continued to act as Secretary to the Comcarriages to run on; the adoption of pany for the space of six months, , but which, in consequence of the diminution could not any longer so act, because the in friction, would much advance the com- Committee, most unjustly, refused to pay mercial prosperity of this Kingdom. That, him any thing for his services; that, in in April, 1825, a Prospectus was issued consequence of such refusal, he attached preparatory to the formation of a Com- the amount which might reasonably be pany to carry this national object into considered as due to him in Messrs. Fry effect. That, in May following, a Public and Chapman's hands, as the property of Meeting was held at the George and the Committee acting for the Company, Vulture Tavern, in Cornhill, for the pur- and in whom the control of the money pose of forming the said Company. That, had been vested ; that Messrs. Fry and at this Meeting, your Petitioner acted as Chapman resisted the attachment, on the Secretary; that various Resolutions were ground that the money was not the prothen proposed, and unanimously adopted, perty of the Committee, but of the persons amongst which are the following :- who had paid it into their hands, and who
“That a Company be now formed for composed the Company-in support of the purpose of carrying into effect the which defence they proved by a clerk,
objects set forth in the Prospectus : that that the money had been placed in their ' a Committee for conducting the affairs books to the credit of the National Stone
of the Company, pro tempore, be ap- Way Company; that the Learned Repointed : that the Committee consist of corder held the objection to be good, and • the following Gentlemen, Subscribers to decided, that as the money was the pro'the Company, with power to add to perty of the Company, and had been * their number [the names here follow] : placed to the credit of the National Stone that a deposit of 1l. per Share, and 5s Way Company in the books of the garper Share to the Patentee, be paid into nishees, the attachment could not be the hands of Messrs. Fry and Chapman, maintained ; that your Petitioner, thus bankers, ad interim, to whom the Secre- defeated on the ground that the money ' tary's letter, announcing the allotment, should have been attached as the pro*must be delivered as their authority for perty of the Company, and not that of * receiving the money on account of the the Committee, applied to Messrs. Fry National Stone Way Company: that and Chapman to furnish him with the Messrs. Fry and Chapman be empowered names of the persons who had paid the to pay cheques or drafts, signed by three money into their hands, in order that he • Members of the Committee, and coun- might lay his attachment accordingly;
tersigned by the Secretary and the but this Messrs. Fry and Co. refused to • Solicitor.'
do. “That the Company being so formed,
“ That your Petitioner, thus circumthe Committee proceeded to carry its stanced, was advised to bring an action object into effect; that your Petitioner, against. Mr. Wm. Fry, the principal as Secretary to the Company, officially I partner in the said Banking-house, and a
Shareholder in, and a Member of, the tioner, as their Secretary, to transmit Committee of the said National Stone them to Mr. Routh, and to call another Way Company, in order to recover from Meeting of the Committee when to your him, individually, unless he should plead Petitioner it should seem necessary; that in abåtement, the amount due to your it was also proved from the Minute Book Petitioner for his services as Secretary to that the Committee of the said Company the Company, and for those of his son in July following resolved on despatching (a minor), as a necessary assistant in the your Petitioner to Jersey, Guernsey, and Company's business, and the respective Devonshire, in order to procure supplies sums of 81. 10s. which he had paid for of granite stone, and to enter into treaties printing the prospectus of the Company, for quarries on the Company's account; and 21. 10s. for postage and other ex- that they advanced him by a check on penses which he had incurred in prose- the house of the defendant, 201., on accuting the Company's business ; that the count of his travelling expenses, and at defendant did not plead in abatement, the same time paid him another check and therefore the action proceeded against upon the said bankers (and which are the him, as a matter of course.
two before spoken of) for 1441. ; being “ That the action was tried at Guild- his remuneration, as patentee, of 5s. per hall, on the 24th ult. before the right share, as provided for by the Prospectus, hon. sir Charles Abbott, Knt. Lord Chief and the Resolutions of the Public MeetJustice of his Majesty's Court of King's ing hereinbefore mentioned, on the numBench, and a Special Jury, moved for ber of shares upon which the deposits by the defendant ; that at the trial, the had been paid into the said BankingProspectus, which sets forth that the house; that 51. more was remitted by Company were to act under a patent the Solicitor to the Company to your granted to your Petitioner, the plaintiff Petitioner, on account of his travelling in the cause, and that 58. per share were expenses, while he was at Plymouth, to be allowed him as Patentee, and a making in all 25l. ; and that the amount printed copy of the Resolutions, passed of his travelling expenses on these at the public meeting, held in May, 1826, voyages and journey was 251. 148.-adalready alluded to, were put in and read mitted by the defendant's counsel and in evidence ; that it was proved by Mr. the Lord Chief Justice, to have been exGeorge Nelson that he attended the said ceedingly moderate; that Mr. Liscombe meeting ; that your Petitioner acted as Price, a Member of the Committee, fully Secretary thereat; that he stated that confirmed the evidence adduced from the for all his services up to that time (al- Minute Book; and further proved, that though he had been occupied several the defendant, Mr. Fry, not only attended months in that capacity, in taking the the Meeting of the Committee on the 6th necessary preliminary measures for the June, and voted at the Board, but that formation of the Company), he should he, the defendant, moved on that occamake no charge, and that the Company sion, that your Petitioner, who then, as would, consequently, commence without at all other times, except when absent any expense but that of printing the on the Company's business, acted as prospectus, and of sundry advertisements; Secretary, should call another Meeting that it was proved by the Minute Book of the Committee when to him should of the Company, that the defendant, Mr. scem fit;' that Mr. Price further proved, William Fry, was added to the Commit- that your Petitioner was unremitting in tee on the 6th June following; that he the discharge of his duty; that the Comattended a Meeting of the Committee on mittee resolved on sending him a second the 23rd of that month ; that at the said time to Jersey and Guernsey ; that he Meeting, your Petitioner, the Secretary to was instructed by the Committee to wait the Company, submitted certain propo- upon, and to enter into negotiations with, sitions for the approval of the Committee, various Public Bodies; that he himself intended to be made to Mr. Deputy had accompanied him to one of those Routh, on behalf of the Commissioners of Bodies; that the Committee were perSewers, for paving, on the Company's fectly satisfied with the zeal, ability and plan, one of the streets of the City; and frugality which he evinced in the Comthat the Committee approved of those pany's service; that for his services he Resolutions, and instructed your Peti- was entitled, in his (Mr. Price's) opinion,