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ought certainly not to be carried beyond the absolute necessity of the case. Among the various objects to which the Committee of last session had turned their attention, the state of the Navigation Laws was one of the most prominent. Aware of the important discussion which was about to be renewed, he was anxious not to intrude long upon the House, and therefore, he would merely say, that he proposed bringing in bills for carrying into effect the recommendations of the Committee in that respect. Another recommendation of the Committee, which was of the utmost importance, related to the simplification and the consolidation of the commercial laws of the country. A third related to the burdens to which foreign ships were subject in our ports, and which led to a severe retaliation on English ships in other countries. It was undoubtedly a matter of great importance carefully to watch over our shipping interests. This and other subjects required immediate and persevering attention; in order, that the trade of the country might reap the full advantage to which it would be entitled from any opening that might be made for its extension. This, he was persuaded, could be effected only by a recurrence, as far as was practicable, to the true principles of the commercial system. Without some effort of that kind, it would be impossible to maintain the trade of the country, on the support, if not on the extension of which our strength and resources so principally depended. The right hon. gentleman concluded by moving, "That a Committee be appointed to consider of the means of maintaining and improving the Foreign Trade of the country.

Mr. Curwen was convinced, that any improvement in the condition of the commerce and manufactures of the country must proceed from an improvement in the condition of our agriculture, now in a state of such severe depression.

Mr. Baring observed, that it was unquestionably most desirable to examine how it happened, that in the sixth year of peace not any amendment had evinced itself in the condition of the country. Our agriculturists, our manufacturers, and our commercial men, all expressed to the House the uneasy state in which they felt themselves, and the distress which they suffered. To enter into the causes and the most advisable remedies for that distress, would be, to go into a question of

great length. At present, therefore, 'he would content himself with declaring his satisfaction at the right hon. gentleman's proposition, and his persuasion, that the inquiry would derive great advantage not only from the right hon. gentleman's official situation, but from his personal talents and experience. He could not help flattering himself, therefore, that benefit must be derived from the labours of the committee.

Sir John Newport thought it desirable, that both Houses should act together in the mode of inquiry, and decide as promptly as possible upon one common course. Nothing was more fatal to any branch of trade than to be kept lingering in a state of uncertainty.

The motion was agreed to, and a committee appointed.

SLAVE TRADE.] Mr. W. Smith said, it was now nearly fourteen years since this country had declared the crime, disgrace, and shame which attached to the African Slave Trade. No sooner had that desirable object been attained, than we turned to the other powers of Europe, and endeavoured to procure from them the same determination. In the peace of 1815, the exertions of the noble lord opposite, procured the abolition by the united voices of almost all nations. He was happy to say, that the noble lord, in employing his able exertions in the cause, had been supported by one of the greatest sovereigns in Europe, the emperor of Russia. He also had to mention a noble duke, to whom the country was so 'deeply indebted, as being among the most strenuous in accomplishing this great object. And for that alone, besides his other high services in the field, the country owed him everlasting gratitude. At the period to which he had alluded, every power in Europe was assembled at the congress of Vienna; and there they agreed in declaring, that the Slave Trade was contrary to all the principles of humanity and of morality. How, then, came it to pass that a period of five years had elapsed, and these powers had afforded no cooperation for carrying their declaration into effect? It therefore appeared, that we had only prevailed upon them to agree to the abolition in word, and that they were not disposed actively to co-operate with us in deed. Denmark had indeed done so, and America had done so. America had not only done that, but by an

Act of Congress she had declared, that Missouri should not be admitted among the federal states, until every kind of slavery was abolished in that country. But by, France, Spain, and Portugal, upon the southern coast of Africa North of the Line, called the Gold and Ivory Coast, the trade was still carried on in a mauner more disgraceful than had been witnessed even in the worst times of the British trading. He concluded by moving for copies or extracts of all communications received by the Lords of the Admiralty from the officers of the navy employed on the coast of Africa, relative to the Slave Trade, from the 1st of January, 1819; with copies of Instructions issued by the Lords of the Admiralty to those officers; and copies of various other papers and communications relative to the present state of the Slave Trade.

Mr. Wilberforce acquiesced in every thing which his hon. friend had stated.

Lord Castlereagh assured the hon. meniber, that every effort of the government had been directed to the subject of the present motion. It was most satisfactory to him, that parliament should, from time to time, take up the consideration of this important question.

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The motion was agreed to.

CONDUCT OF MINISTERS RELATIVE TO THE PROCEEDINGS AGAINST THE QUEEN.] The Debate on the motion, "That it appears to this House, that his "majesty's ministers, in advising the measures which have led to the late proceedings againgst her majesty the "Queen, were not justified by any "political expediency or necessity, and "that their conduct throughout the whole "of those proceedings has been productive "of consequences derogatory from the "honour of the Crown, and injurious to "the best interests of the country," being resumed,

Sir Robert Wilson rose. He said, he could assure the House, that it was not his intention to detain them by any lengthened arguments; but he felt it to be his duty to communicate some important information which he possessed, relative to the discussion before the House. As far as he understood the arguments of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Bathurst) who had spoken first in opposition to the motion, he had not attempted to justify the conduct of ministers, but had rather expressed a wish,

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that the House should overlook errors that might have arisen from the complicated course which they were obliged to follow. The hon. member for Corfe Castle had, in the exercise of his rigid impartiality, taken a different course: he had condemned the beginning, the middle, and the end of the proceedings adopted by ministers; and he (sir R. Wilson) had been particularly struck with the word end, because he saw no termination of these proceedings. The member for Oxford had admitted, that ministers had committed three errors-not indeed of great intrinsic demerit in themselves; but important on account of their prejudicial influence in a public point of view. every other part the right hon. gentleman approved of the conduct of ministers, and thought they could not have acted otherwise, consistently with that purity of motive by which he believed them to have been actuated. It was, however, a maxim founded on the experience of all human transactions, that men's motives were to be judged of by their actions; and while it remained for ministers to explain any motive that appeared of a doubtful character, it was for him (sir Robert) to show, that they had committed great errors in the discharge of their duty. One thing, he thought, was clear; namely, that errors of ignorance or of incapacity on the part of public officers must be visited in the same manner as if they proceeded from impurity of motive, because their consequence to the public was equally detrimental. That was a principle applicable to the conduct of generals, admirals, and all military and naval officers, and was uniformly recognised in every court-martial; and he could see no reason why it should be excepted, or, indeed, why it should not be more rigorously enforced, in the case of a minister of the Crown. There was one circumstance, at least, that justified a suspicion of the motives of ministers, and that must continue to do so until they gave a satisfactory explanation-he meant the time chosen by them for instituting the Milan commission. It was immediately after the princess Charlotte had been removed from her parent by her premature death; and he must contend, that the selection of such a time for instituting such a commission was a circumstauce of a notoriously suspicious character. He did not accuse ministers of having purposely selected that moment;

but the fact was, that they then sub- have been proved or disproved by a cloud scribed an instrument instituting the of witnesses of unquestioned honour and Milan commission to collect evidence re- veracity, had it pleased ministers to call specting charges, which he believed had on them for their evidence. He had statnot reached them by hearsay, but had ed to the House on a former occasion, originated in the impure source of Hano- that there was no person at the court of verian agency, that united with English Naples who was not ready to swear to the gentlemen, the Omptedas and other in- falsehood of the charges respecting her famous characters with whom the con- majesty's conduct at that court; but, spiracy originated. He did not indeed were there not also other persons of rehold ministers accountable for all the spectability who might have been competransactions of that commission-for all tent to give evidence? Was her majesty that had been disclosed in the House of living in so retired a manner that the Lords respecting the subornation of dis- Italian nobles had no knowledge of her carded servants and the attempts to pre- conduct? He said, with confidence, that vail on them to give false evidence against it was the duty of his majesty's ministers their benefactress; nor did he accuse to have made beforehand those inquiries them because they had acted on the de- which would have shown whether they positions submitted to them; but when were justified or not in stating, in the they found, that these depositions con- preamble of their bill, that the Queen's tained charges derogatory from the ho- conduct had been such as to bring disnour of her najesty, it was their duty to grace on the country. But it might be ascertain, as far as they could, whether asked, why this information had not been the witnesses were persons of candour, brought forward sooner. The answer and to endeavour to corroborate their was, that there had not been time to bring statements by other testimony. The it forward before the close of the trial. House had at least one proof that minis- He would now read several extracts from ters had not taken these precautionary evidence which ministers might have had measures. It would be recollected, that before they brought in their bill. The when the noble lord brought down the House was aware, that her majesty had green bag, he stated-and, feeling as he lived three years at Pesaro, which was not did for the unfortunate object of the a village, as had been represented, but a charges, the declaration of the noble city of great consequence. The first exlord had struck him with terror-that tract which he should read was from a the depositions contained in that bag deposition made by the bishop of Pesaro, were made, not by unknown and anony- domestic chaplain to the pope. After mous witnesses, but by persons of charac- stating in the strongest language, that, ter, and entitled to credit. He had a most during her residence of three years at distinct recollection, that the noble lord Pesaro, nothing injurious to the honour vouched for the character of the witnesses, of her majesty had ever come to his and that his statement on that subject knowledge he went on to say" We was made in reply to a question put from further certify, that, in the fulfilment of the Opposition side of the House. But, our pastoral duty, we continually receive when the Attorney-General aequainted secret notices of the conduct of individuthe House of Lords with the nature of his als living in our dioceses, but we have charges, and the characters that were to received none of this individual, that could support them, it appeared, that they rested give us reason to suspect the decency of on the evidence of persons the very de- her majesty; nor can we doubt, that, had scription of whom did not attach much there really occurred any scandal, it cercredit to their declarations. What was tainly could not have remained concealed the reason that individuals of higher cha- from the vigilance of our court.-August racter had not been examined? There 26, 1820." were then English gentlemen and ladies of rank and distinction attached to her majesty's household, and other persons of high rank and character had been travelling on the continent during her majesty's residence abroad, whose testimony might have been obtained. There were many charges against her majesty that might

The next extract was from a letter of Cardinal Albani, a person pre-eminent for his virtues, and who would gladly have come over to this country on her majesty's behalf, had it been in his power :

Certainly your majesty having deigned to allow me to attend your court, both in Pesaro and in Rome, I should have been

charges against her majesty, that she had been black-balled by the Cassino, or Society of nobles, at Milan; and to show, that the truth of this charge was equal to that of the others, he should read the following extract from a certificate which the Austrian government had allowed to be made :

more able than any other to have done justice to those eminent virtues which I have admired in your majesty; and I should have been able to testify, that, in the various occasions I have had the good fortune to approach your majesty, you have been always surrounded by the most select society, and that your discourse, your manners, and deportment, have all corresponded, and been such as became a personage of your exalted rank. But all this, which my circumstances so unfortunately prevent my attesting in person, I am certain can be done by many other Italian gentlemen, distinguished by their birth, merit, and probity.-August 13, 1820."

The next deposition was one from count Alexander Volta. That distinguished individual declared as follows: "On all occasions, which were very frequent, visiting her sometimes in the morning in her boudoir-sometimes at her conversazione in the evening-at other times accompanying her in her walks, &c. I always observed united in her the most gracious affability and the most noble decorum, such as to be often noticed by me to the various other noble and distinguished personages, who enjoyed the honour of her society." The last to which he should refer, was from a man of equally respectable character. Professor Tamasia made the following declaration:-" Admitted by the nature

"The directors of the society of nobles of Milan do certify, that it does not appear from the registers and journals of the said society, from its first establishment up to the present day, that her majesty, during her residence in Italy, ever made application to be admitted as a member of the said society of nobles." It would also be recollected, that one of the principal charges against her majesty was founded on her conduct at Trieste, and that the number of the days, and even of the hours, during which she had resided in that place, had been stated in the evidence for the prosecution. He wished to ask the noble lord opposite, whether there was not a British consul at Trieste at the time this charge was got up, and whether any inquiry had been made of him as to the truth of the statement? He believed that no such inquiry had been made; aud of this he was certain, that her majesty stayed at Trieste only one night. He was sorry to state, to the disgrace of the Austrian government, that an application for permission to consult the public registers of the city had been made, for the purpose of finding her majesty's name in the lists of arrivals and departures, and that that application had been refused. Permission was indeed reluctantly given at last, but the evidence afforded by it came too late to be of use in her majesty's defence. As to the charge founded on the sudden elevation of Bergami, he had reason to know that that individual was entitled to allthe marks of distinction he received. In form

of my office into the interior apartments, I never saw any thing in her manners that was not decent and correct; and with the persons of her court whose offices attached them most to her person, I have always seen her preserve that decorum which, without varying from that goodness which is natural to her, respected the bounds prescribed to her by her high rank. To her inferiors her majesty certainly was more condescend-ing a correct judgment on this subject, it ing than, unfortunately, is usual to those was to be remembered that in foreign moving in a high sphere, and I have seen countries, where people had been renher majesty, though scarcely recovered, dered so familiar with revolution, not go down and visit the lowest of her do- only in kingdoms but in families, it was mestics herself, causing the medicines to not customary to ask what a man originbe administered, and attending to see ally was, but whether he deserved the that every the smallest assistance possible station he occupied. He remembered, was rendered to them. With respect to that when he was at Berlin, the present the persons with whom her majesty liked king of Sweden, at that time Crown to associate principally, they were chiefly Prince, recognised an individual, who had persons the most distinguished in the formerly been a fellow-domestic, in lancountry, both in point of rank and pro- guage that did honour to his heart.-He fession." would ask, against whom this prosecution It had been stated, in enumerating the-this persecution, had been commenced? VOL. IV.

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He called it persecution; because, what peace, what repose could the Queen enjoy, while ministers refused to do an act so necessary to her honour and character an act at once just, politic, and gracious? Had any person in any situation of life drunk deeper of the cup of affliction than her majesty? Did not the very wretches who came forward to depose against her, admit her constant benevolence and her generous magnanimity? She had not refused to visit the sick when afflicted with the most pestilential disease. Like the good Bishop of Marseilles, she

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"Where nature sickened and each gale was death."

The plague itself had no terrors for her, when her presence could be either a comfort or a utility. Should not conduct like this excite some sympathy, some kindred feeling? It was said, that some publications, in the name of her majesty, contained violent and indiscreet passages: but those who made the accusation ought to recollect the situation in which her majesty had been placed; they ought to recollect, that the Queen had forborne to wield the formidable weapon of recrimination, and which the noble lord well knew, she could have wielded with a power so destructive. The right hon member for Oxford had asked-" What! shall we let adultery triumph on the throne of England ?"—and he had asserted, that it was the same thing, whether committed on the shores of Britain, or on the waves of the Mediterranean. If that were true, then it was the same thing, whether ministers afforded adultery the means of triumph in Italy or in England. Yet, had they not offered to recognise it with the grant of sovereign power, and to aid it by an income that would have secured to it every means of indulgence and impunity? He was one, however reluctant some might be to give credit to the assertion, who deeply lamented that the prayer for peace out of doors had met with no corresponding echo within the walls of parliament. Glad indeed should he have been at this moment, if ministers would have allowed him to convert a resolution of censure into a vote of thanks-to construct, out of prevailing confusion, a temple of concord, by a concession on their part, that would at once entitle them to the love and gratitude of their country. Such an expectation, however, was vain. Ministers

were determined. to keep alive the irritation of the country. It was idle in them to charge others as the disturbers of the public peace; they were the great leviathans of anarchy, and their cabinet was the great revolutionary engine which menaced the country with more danger than had ever yet been threatened by any subversive power. He had only to state, that being himself an advocate of reform, he had always thought more strongly in its favour than was calculated to promote his personal interests. Upon two contingencies, he was both ready and willing to retire from public life. He should solicit his constituents to substitute some other representative in his place, whenever the House of Commons had proceeded to such an extremity of disregard to the wishes of the people as to deprive it of all confidence in its measures. He should no less be willing to withdraw into privacy, without recompense for any poor services it might have been his good fortune to render, whenever it appeared that his presence offered obstacles in the way of any arrangement essential to the welfare of his country.

Mr. Huskisson, after stating his reason for now breaking through the practice of a long parliamentary life, by troubling the House on a general question like the present, proceeded to advert to some of the topics already introduced in the course of the debate. In the first place, he must observe, that what had fallen from the hon. member for Corfe-castle, had been grossly misunderstood and misinterpreted; his hon. friend had not disapproved of the beginning, middle, and end of the proceedings against the Queen; he had only gone to the extent of saying, that he was not completely satisfied on the subject, adding, that if the matter were to be commenced again, he did not know, if he had been a minister, how he could act otherwise. Next, with regard to what the same hon. gentleman had remarked on the subject of the peace of 1815, that peace did answer the description he had given of it. At least, some valuable acquisitions were made by this country, and an exalted notion had been raised among the nations of the world as to her character, vigour, and resources. Such was his (Mr. H.'s) opinion; and it was not to be altered by an incident occurring in the sixth year of peace, which no wisdom could have foreseen or prevented, and by which, he trusted, the tranquillity of Europe could

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