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"? яйтеті і тя от that the British constitution was not French constitution, had not att perfect; Mr. Fox" mentioned the tempts been made to introduce the vote of the year 1980, That the monster-into this country. Libels, influence of the crown had increased, he said, had been circulated against was increasing, and ought to be di- the constitution, by societies calling minished. To this vote his right themselves constiqutionáli. He faida konourable friend had assented; and when he saw the new French conftiin 1783, when his majesty, on the tution, he wept : it was the work bols of America, lamented in his of Goths and Vaadals, where every {peech the fate of the provinces, in thing was out of place, disjointed being deprived of the advantages and inverted. He mentioned many resulting from monarchy, Mr. Burke of the enormities which were com had ridiculed the idea, and compared mitted in France, and particularly it to a man's opening the door, after the religious persecution to which he had left the room, and saying, the non-juring clergy had been fube "At our parting, pray let me recom- jected ; and which, be rjuftly ob mend a monarchy to you." He ferved, was a cruel violation of the faid, if we did not with a monopoly principles of tolération. His opinion of that liberty which we prized lo of the American revolution did not higbly, we must rejoice in the eman militate againft his opinion of the cipation of France. Feeling the French, as the Americans had some present temper of Mr. Burke's reason for the condge which they mind, he faid, he should keep out of had pursued his

way till time and reflection had The chancellor of the exchequer Atted him to think differently of explained that part of his former the subject ; and then if their friends - {peech, which Mr. Fox had condid not endeavour to re-unite them, fidered as charging him with repubthey would not act as he had a right Lican principles. He said, that when to expect.

that gentleman proposed an clective The concesions of Mr. Fox made instead of an hereditary council, le but little impression on Mr. Burke.. conceived that he (Mr. Fox) was

He said, that the tenderness disa inclined to think that a larger infuplayed in the beginning and end of fion of the republican principle than his speech, had been completely at present subfilted in the Britith counterbalanced by what occurred conftitution, was best adapted to in the middle of it, and complained the new government of Canada ; loudly of Mr. Fox taking advantage but that this was à sentiinent to even of his jokes and molt careless wbich he (Mr. Pitt) couldinot por expressions, to prove him guilty of : ably agree. With this explanatish juconsistency. It had been laid that. Mr. Fox declared himself satisfied in fome points the Britich contiel and concluded this tumultuous de cution might be amended; but bad bate with intimating, that at a fusa he ever said that that or any other ture day be had no doubt of excuthuman confiitution might not? It pating himself from every charge of had been said, that, in order to republicanism. Si zo stran praise the British, he had thought The debate which followed on proper to abuse every other confti: the fame bill, on the sath of May, iution; but had- he ever displayed took a milder and more temperate any such Spirit? He would not course. : Mr. Fox: declared himself even have brought forward the an advocate for the British copfti i


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10.1 hr Ot!:: wyd ISWOOD:stylinder Kution, and for hereditary honours; his duty to hiar country, in warning {uclei, as exifted in this country, it against the pernicious French which were frequently incentives to principles, at a time when there was patriotism and virtue as he granted, not merely a plot, but open and howevši, that his principles were fo avowed attempts to fubvert the confar republicaðthats he wished to fitutionssists, compositt Id....7098 give the crown less power, and the - Thus eoncluded an altercations people more, in every government, which has produced a fchifm till old or new ; and added, that he was evident in the politics of the oppor decidedly of opinion, that the con: lition party. How far the later prod ftitution of this country was more ceedings in France, may tend. 19, liable to be ruined by an increase of abate rithe, ardour of contention, the power of the crown than of the which the French revolution first ekon peopleMr. Burke denied that he cited in this country, it is difficule Inad ever imputed democratic prins to say. To us it appears that they ciples to Mr. Fot, with a view to are too likely to unite all fengible hurt him; land if the bad pulbed him and well disposed persons in a conto a declaration soft bisi principles, demnation of the present meafures the fpeech which they bad jult of the popular party there, howheard fromahim would prove how ever they may have differed asset far he was likely to have attained his the principle of the Grallic revoke eod. He confidered himself as for. tiongro yo va bivorit si biet te ontvarises faken by his party ; but he had done budouito ay bigui dis par

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is which we have jutt noticed to his reprefentations, to make some rernained iti agitationl before the furtheb, augmentation of bis nasal Britila fenate, the attebtion of that forber') sa iti troben beraly was called to another object,d As soon ası.Mr. Pitt had moved not lets important to thecinterests that the metiaye: be taken into and welfare of the nations, On theç consideration on the mornow," Mt. 28th of March a message was ldelje Fox rose, and deplored the circumveredh from his majesty, importing stance of their having fallen into a that the endeavours which he had situation to unfortunate and so un-7 ufed, in conjunction with his alliés, expected. Referving' himself for the tol effed a spacification, not having confideration of the messages be. proved (uccessful, his majetty judged asked the chancellor of the exche


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quer, whether he meant only to move diminution of that influences and a fimple address of thanks to his ma- to Pruffia in particular it muß be jefty for the communication, or highly injurious, to suffer the Turk whether he meant to include in the ith empire to be diminished in force

vote an approbation of the measure and consequence. He: therefore If the latter were to be the cafe, he moved an address, to thank his ma arusted the doctrine of confidence jefty for the communication, and to had not yet proceeded so far, that aflure him that the boufe would they would haftily profess themselves make good the expences, &e. ready to support the king's expences, Lord Wycombe observed, that, without having before them any on first hearing this report, he had ground of information whatever. met it with a positive disbelief. In a Mr. Pitt answered, that it had not commercial vicw, there were no been usual to delay the confideration benefits to be hoped for from the of a meflage from his majelty longer meafure, in any degree equivalent than a day; and in the present cale, to the mischief attending hoftilities. there were many reasons why the In a political view, he could not business ought not to be deferred. think a dispute concerning the fronHe intimated also, that a vote of fup- tiers of Turkey was a sufficient mcplies would be included in the answer tive to engage this country in a war, to the message.

At all events, her should resilt the The debate on the 29th was measure, till he was possessed of a opened by Mr. Pitt, who lamented more adequate thare of information that his majesty's endeavours to on the subject. restore peace to Europe had proved - On the same grounds the motion ineffectual ; yet while they felt the was opposed by Mr. Coke, Mr. advantage of that fystem of de- Lambton, Mr. Martin, Mr. Vyner, fensive alliance, which had been so and others; and it was supported by generally countenanced, he trusted Mr. Steele. they would admit that a temporary

Mr. Fox declared, that he was expence might be wisely and judi- not against a necessary share of conciously incorred, to prevent any al-fidence in miniltry; but he observed, teration taking place in the relative at the same time, that necesary concondition of the affairs of Europe. fidence was only a necessary evil; and With a view to the state of these ought, therefore, to be always the affairs, he said, an additional force leart that the nature of things would had been kept up after the late ar- permit. To admit simply that the mament ; and a further addition king, by the advice of his ministers, was now necessary. He stated, that had ordered an armament, and that if defensive alliances were to be the house must pay the expence, was maintained, it was our duty to ad not in all the gradations of rational diere to those alliances. The influ. confidence ; and the houst of comence of the Turkish empire, he faid, mons which entertained the prowas of great effect in the general position, betrayed its duty and in. Scale of European powers; and its fulted its conttituents. The riglet present tituation was such, as to honourable gentleman who moved afford juft cause of apprehension to the address had en veluped himself all the other powers, whofe interefts in mystery and importance, but exwere at all liable to be affected by a plained nothing. When the balance


of power was mentioned as a reason and in 1789 his majelly again affor arming, it onght to be thewn fured parliament, that' the fituahow it was endangered. When fup- tion of affairs, was furch : aproplies are called for to prevent the ag- mised us a continuance of peace. grandirement of Rufin, it ought to Whatever confidence, he obferbe stated whom he meant to attacki ved, imight be claimed by minifters, He mentioned it as a general upis none could be due where they had nion, that Ruflia was attacked by betrayed incapacity; and this the the Porte, at the initigation of prefent minitters had done in their Great Britain and Pruffia. If this continental connexions.' 1. In the was not so, why did we inot prevent negociations at Reichenbach, when she war, if we thought we had any they found the emperor disposed to concern in its iffue Would fir Ro. peace, they had neglected the op bert Airlie fay, chat he had been portunity of engaging the empresa instructed to divert the Porte from by the same arguments which induattacking Ruffia? In all his mä сed him to confent, and which were jefty's former speeches, he had re- then in their power. They had ftigretted the war on principles of mulated Sweden to attack Ruflia; Aumanity, but always added an af- prevented Denmark from allting furace, that no danger was to be her'; and then neglected, Sweden. apprehended from it to us. What If the armament in the Spanish difthen had since happened to involve pute was equipped with any view us? The dispute between the em- to · Russia, deceit and falsehood press and us he believed to be were practised upon the house. Af ihis. She offered to cede all, her ter the termination of the dispute, tonquels between the Niester and why did we difarm, if we knew that the Danube, and proposed to retain we had itill occafion for an armaonly those between the Niester and ment? Accidental causes, and partithe Don ; while we infifted that cularly the state of France, had conthe mould surrender all her con- tributed to our prosperity. But quells without exception. Such how miserably had we abused thele was the proposition which we held advantages ! By the absurd pride of out to Ruflia ; while in India, in interfering in the affairs of every foour own cafe, we infifted that, should reign state, we had involved ourwe be fuccessful agaiolt Tippoo Sul- felves in 'expence, and obtained only tan, he should not only muke repa- the hazard of war. Neither had we ration, but also furrender as much, been successful in any but the inas 'we could conquer of his terri- ftance of Holland. We had not Lories, as a fine for having made the lowered Ruska; we had not raised first attack. Our whole ground of Sweden ; and between the emperor quarvel with Rufiia was, therefore, and his Belgic subjects our interfethe tract of territory he had men- rence had been ridiculous. The tioned'; unprofitable and worthless allied powers had made certain tipu$0 any power, except for a fingle lations with the emperor in behalf plateeontained in vf, and this of the provinces ; and when marshal place was Oczakow, Now had Bender was about to enter the New Oczakow been taken in the present therlands with an armed force, year, it might have been said to their ministers at the Hague wrote bave produced a change of circum- him, that he muft ftoptill certain pretances; but it was taken in 1788, liminaries were adjusted. His answer


was a peremptory refusal. They peror manifested a favourable difpofie then said, “You must take the con- tion, would it have been wife to fula fequence, we walh our hands of the pend the negociations with him, at buliness.” If our allies were attacked, the risk of their being broken off, we had then indeed a right to inter- in order to wait for the concurrence fere ; but we had no alliance with of Ruffia? Pending our dispute Turkey, and were only called on to with Spain, we were neither so gratify the pride of our own mini- free to act as now, nor was the nen iters, and second the ill-judged po cefsity then fo urgent. But why, licy of Prufiia. How far ministers it was aled, did we dismiss

, our were pledged to support that policy armament after that dispute was he knew not, but he knew the concluded? We had pot dismissed country was not bound to support it. our armament, for we had kept up

Mr. Pitt in reply observed, that as a considerable addition of force ; Mr. Fox had admitted, that to in- but as the season of the year made terfere occafionally in the politics of it impossibleto act for several months, the continent made a part of that we had not kept up a force of fifty defenfive fyftem which he had always lips of the line, because it would thought it right to Support, the have been to no purpose, and the present question was simply, "whe- expence would have exceeded thac ther the present was an occasion on of the present armament. which we ought to interfere ?"

Mr. Pitt observed, that the pre, Now if it were true that Prussia, by dominance of Ruffia would proba. the aggrandifement of Ruffa, must bly effect an alteration in the state be endangered, and consequently of Europe in other respects disad, our defentive system impaired, then vantageous to this country, with the circumstances actually called for respect to Poland in particular. We our interference. It had been insinu- had a commercial intereft in culti

7 ated that minifters were bound by yating a trade with Poland, and engagements to Pruffia, with which preventing Russia from obtaining the country had nothing to do. He such a decided command of the arbegged leave to affure the house ticles we wanted, as to give or withthat the infinuation was unfounded, hold them at her pleasure. and that ministers were bound by no Mr. Burke faid, that as it mighta. engagements to Prussia but such as be the last time that he should have had received the fanétion of par- an opportunity of delivering his fena, kiament. Admitting, for the sake ţiments on a similar question, he of argument, what he would not could not refrain from offering a few admit in fact, that we ought to remarks to the house. He said, is have interposed sooner on the pre- was extremely novel, and contrary to sent occation, that was no reason all the politics with which he was against interposing But acquainted, to bring the Turkish had the necellity been so pressing at empire into the contideration of the any former period, or were fuch balance of power in Europe. The confequences to be apprehended question, he said, was not, whether without a speedy interference ? !t the empress of Rusia should or was next said, that we had lost the should not dismember Turkey? is opportunity of bringing Ruflia to was simply, whether the should poft terms, when the emperor was pre- fess Oczakow or not? When the vailed on to treat-But when theem- empress had made those facrifices,

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